The St. Louis Cardinals got deep into discussions with the Miami Marlins about acquiring Giancarlo Stanton, but the NL MVP did not want to waive his no-trade clause to make the deal work. Perhaps the groundwork that was laid can now be used to facilitate a Marcell Ozuna deal.
Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Cardinals and Marlins are making progress on a trade involving Ozuna.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) December 13, 2017
The Cardinals had reportedly agreed to the framework of a deal with Miami for Stanton, so it makes sense that the two teams would still want to do business. St. Louis is loaded with prospects, and the Marlins are determined to unload some — if not all — of their players with big contracts.
Ozuna has been an All-Star two seasons in a row and is entering his second year of arbitration. He made $3.5 million in arbitration last season and should be in line for a much bigger salary in 2018 and 2019. The 27-year-old had a breakout season in 2017, batting .312 with 37 home runs, 124 RBI and an OPS of .924.
We have heard some other teams mentioned in trade talks with the Marlins for Ozuna, but the Cardinals may make the most sense after what happened with Stanton.
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It does not sound like Giancarlo Stanton will look back on his time with the Miami Marlins particularly fondly.
In a farewell post on Instagram, Stanton thanked the Marlins organization and fans — while noting that he tried his best to remain professional during “unprofessional, circus times” in the organization.
Thank you to the Marlins Organization & the amazing city of Miami! The city that adopted me at 17 with open arms. I’ve loved this place over the years and it will always be special to me. I appreciate All my teammates & coaching Staff that battled day in and day out I feel for u fans, you’ve stuck with me as we’ve shared some roller coaster years. I’ve always tried to be as professional as possible during the unprofessional , circus times there! Regardless of the Ups&downs, I’ve grown n learned a lot as a Person/Player. So for that I give thanks, I hope there are better days in Miami . The city & the people are too great not to be! Stay positive & much love ! ————————————— As for NEW YORK CITY !!! I am officially a YANKEE I can’t wait to spark this new chapter in my life, & keeping it Lit
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Now that Stanton is officially a New York Yankee, he doesn’t have to bite his tongue about what he really thinks of the Marlins. Reports that he is “very happy” to be joining the Yankees may well be an understatement if this is how the slugger felt about his tenure in Miami. To be fair, he’s not really saying anything that nobody from the outside didn’t think.
The Miami Marlins have reportedly agreed to the framework of a Giancarlo Stanton trade with both the St. Louis Cardinals and San Francisco Giants, but it’s up to the slugger to decide if he wants to play for either team.
Jon Morosi of MLB Network reported on Sunday that the Marlins agreed to the terms of deals with the Cardinals and Giants last week before Stanton met with executives from both clubs.
Sources: #Marlins have agreed to general framework of Giancarlo Stanton trades with both #STLCards and #SFGiants; the deals are on hold, while Marlins wait for Stanton to inform them whether he’d accept either trade. @MLB @MLBNetwork
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) December 3, 2017
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) December 3, 2017
There have been reports that Stanton wants to be traded to the Dodgers, but Miami’s talks with L.A. have not gone anywhere. However, Morosi notes that Stanton could simply veto any trade the Marlins agree to and wait as long as he can to force his way to his preferred destination.
Worth saying again: Giancarlo Stanton is in control here, due to full no-trade. If he wants to wait on the #Dodgers, he can — even if that means saying no to everyone else this offseason and revisiting in July/August or next winter. @MLB @MLBNetwork
— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) December 3, 2017
Stanton supposedly prefers to play on the west coast, so he seems more likely to accept a trade to the Giants than the Cardinals. This is the risk the Marlins took by giving the 28-year-old a full no-trade clause. For now, they can do nothing but wait.
The only thing standing in the way of Giancarlo Stanton being traded to the San Francisco Giants may be the NL MVP’s stamp of approval.
SiriusXM Radio host Craig Mish reported on Thursday that Giants executives were set to meet with Stanton’s representatives in Los Angeles. According to Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports, the trade discussions have been very promising, and the Marlins seem to be satisfied with the package the Giants are offering.
Ultimately, though, the call will be up to Stanton, as he has a full no-trade clause, which gives him the power to decide where he wishes to go – at least among the teams interested enough to make bona fide bids. Giants power brokers Bobby Evans, Brian Sabean and even Bruce Bochy traveled to Los Angeles for the meeting with Stanton’s reps in Los Angeles, including lead agent Joel Wolfe, Mish reported. (It isn’t known whether Stanton himself was there.)
It also isn’t known whether there’s a tentative agreement in place between the teams, but there’s word from sources that the Giants are willing to pay a substantial portion the $295 million to go on Stanton’s deal over the next 10 years, and Mish reported that at least at some point a package including infielder Joe Panik and young pitchers Tyler Beede and Chris Shaw had been bandied about. The Marlins began talks at the beginning of this winter by asking teams to take the entire contract, and also to give up good prospects, though it isn’t clear whether the Giants have signaled a willingness to pay the entire deal – which also includes a player opt-out in three years.
The St. Louis Cardinals are the other team that has been aggressively pursuing Stanton, but the 28-year-old has a full no-trade clause and is said to prefer going to the West Coast. There have been rumblings that Stanton is hoping the Marlins can work something out with the Los Angeles Dodgers, but it sounds like Miami’s talks with the Giants have gone the deepest.
The Miami Marlins have essentially been cleaning house since Derek Jeter took over as the team’s CEO, and apparently even employees who are recovering in the hospital should not take their job with the organization for granted.
Marty Scott, a former Marlins vice president who had been working as a scout in recent years, told Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports that he was informed he no longer had a job with the Marlins last month while he was in a hospital after undergoing colon cancer surgery. On Oct. 16, Scott received a call from Marlins pro scouting director Jim Cuthbert.
“My heart sank a little bit,” Scott recalled. “At the same time, I thought, ‘They’re not going to do this while I’m in the hospital. … I didn’t want to get upset, get my blood pressure up. I was lying in a hospital bed and couldn’t move.”
Scott said he was hoping to speak with Jeter or someone from upper management about the decision. While he noted that Cuthbert was apologetic, he said his request was never fulfilled.
“Derek Jeter doesn’t owe me anything,” Scott said. “Probably in their hearts they did what they thought was right. I know based on certain aspects of the game, I probably was making too much money. But we all love the game. We’re all in it together. I just think 40 years was worth more than a spank on the butt and see you later.
“I’m very hurt. Forty years in baseball, I let a lot of people go. I never, ever fired somebody 10 days, 15 days before their contract was up. If I knew I was going to fire somebody, I did it at the beginning of September.”
Scott, 64, found out he had a cancerous tumor on his colon in August when he was undergoing tests for a kidney transplant he needs. He was discharged from the hospital a day after the Marlins let him go, but he returned to a different hospital two days later when he developed a urinary tract infection. Doctors started him on dialysis and daily three-hour therapy sessions, and Scott says his Marlins-issued cell phone was shut off during that time. That led to complications with his health insurance situation, but he was able to get everything sorted out and is scheduled for a kidney transplant in January.
“The ironic thing about all this is in their playing days, my two favorite athletes over the past 20 years were Brett Favre and Derek Jeter,” Scott said. “Because they played their respective games the way they need to be played. They respected the game. They weren’t hot dogs. They hustled. That’s why they were my favorite players. But Derek’s in a new game now, one of management and ownership, and certain things about this side of the game he needs to learn.”
Jeter has received a lot of bad press since he bought the Marlins, and Scott’s story certainly won’t help things. While there’s a difference between firing an employee and not renewing a contract, it seems like there were much better ways the Marlins could have handled the scout’s dismissal.
Giancarlo Stanton is one of the most talented players to ever compete in Major League Baseball, but that does not mean a team is going to risk the entire future of its franchise just to acquire the slugger.
The Marlins have already begun shopping Stanton in trade talks, and at least a handful of teams have interest in the 28-year-old. However, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports that Miami’s asking price may need to drop significantly in order for something to happen.
Some rival execs view the Marlins' prospect asking price for Giancarlo Stanton as shockingly high and somewhat out of touch with reality, and not discounted nearly enough given the whopping $295 million he's owed (with the forthcoming out clause after the 2020 season).
— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) November 14, 2017
While Stanton had the best season of his career in 2017 with 59 home runs and 132 RBI to go along with a .281 batting average and .631 slugging percentage, the money remaining on his contract makes him difficult to move. If the Marlins want several top prospects in return for Stanton, they are going to have to be willing to eat some of the $295 million he is still owed over the next 10 years.
It’s a given that baseball contracts are going to be horrible in their final years, but Stanton is slated to make $30 million a year in his late-30s. We all saw what happened with Alex Rodriguez’s contract in New York.
Making matters more complicated, Stanton’s contract includes a full no-trade clause. Even if some team is willing to blow the Marlins away with an offer, Stanton still has to sign off on the trade. The Giants, Cardinals, Red Sox and Phillies have all been mentioned as having interest in Stanton, though two of those teams seem to be leading the charge.
The Miami Marlins apparently have a trade partner in mind with regard to the Giancarlo Stanton sweepstakes.
According to Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports, the Marlins view the St. Louis Cardinals as an appealing suitor in a Stanton trade. The team has many premium pitching prospects, such as Alex Reyes and Jack Flaherty. They are also believed to be willing to part with some of them to bring Stanton to St. Louis.
One big problem for the Cardinals could be the fact that Stanton may prefer a move to one of the coasts, with the Midwest less appealing to him. Stanton has a full no-trade clause, so he will have significant leverage in determining his next destination if, as expected, the Marlins opt to move him this winter.
The Cardinals are definitely interested, though we’re obviously a long way from any trade being done. Expect the Marlins to take some time assessing their options and figuring out what Stanton would be keen on.