Carson Wentz has quickly gone from one of the most promising young quarterbacks in football to a reclamation project, and it sounds like he did himself few favors with the Philadelphia Eagles last season.
In his latest piece for NBC Sports on Monday, Peter King listed several takeaways from conversations he had with people who were familiar with Wentz’s situation in 2020. One of the takeaways is that the former second overall pick did not respond to coaching and “(tuned) out much of what he was being taught.” Wentz reportedly did not trust Doug Pederson and the Eagles’ coaching staff. The same was true of Wentz’s feelings toward the front office after they drafted Jalen Hurts in the second round last year.
King also noted that Wentz “saw ghosts” and rushed many of his throws because he lost trust in his offensive line.
This is not the first time we have heard that Wentz was upset about the Eagles drafting Hurts. You can understand why, as no young quarterback wants to feel the team is looking to potentially replace him. However, Wentz had an opportunity to respond to that by working even harder and trying to prove he is a franchise cornerstone. Instead, he went the opposite route.
If you remember, there was an unflattering report a while back about Wentz being a poor leader who was not well-liked by his teammates. Multiple players shot it down, but there has been a very clear narrative surrounding Wentz over the past few seasons.
Wentz wanted to go to the Indianapolis Colts because of his relationship with head coach Frank Reich. Time will tell if the two get along better than Wentz did with his former coaches.
The Philadelphia Eagles came away with a second- and third-round draft pick in exchange for quarterback Carson Wentz, and it’s a trade that apparently left a sour taste in the team’s mouth.
The Eagles shipped Wentz to the Indianapolis Colts for the pair of draft picks, with the second-round pick potentially becoming a first-rounder if Wentz plays enough. While the organization clearly felt it had to move Wentz and thinks it got fair market value for him, there is apparently a sense of disappointment with how things played out.
“Not thrilled,” ESPN’s Tim McManus said Friday on “Get Up!”, via Sam Marsdale of 247Sports. “They recognize the return they got vs. what they invested in (Wentz) does not match up. The reality is they were selling at a low point. Carson Wentz was coming off one of the worst years of his career — one of the worst years of any quarterback in the NFL last year — he’s due to make $47 million over the next two seasons and he’s got some questions about coachability that he needs to answer. That was known throughout the league. The market was pretty warm. There was one team really hot after him because of Frank Reich’s connection to Wentz, and that was the Colts. So I don’t think the Eagles wake up happy to this, but they recognize it was fair market value, all things considered.”
The Eagles picked Wentz second overall in the 2016 NFL Draft, developed him briefly into an MVP candidate, signed him to an enormous contract, and then watched as it all fell apart. It’s only logical that they’d be disappointed and upset with how that played out. The Eagles knew they were moving Wentz at a low point, which just shows how much they felt they had to get rid of him. When you hear about how things went in the locker room in 2020, it’s easy to see why.
Carson Wentz said farewell to Eagles fans and the city of Philadelphia in an Instagram message on Friday.
Wentz thanks his teammates, coaches, and the fans in Philadelphia, adding that he hopes to continue charitable efforts in the area moving forward. He also added that he is “excited” to join the Indianapolis Colts, who agreed to acquire him in a trade on Thursday.
Notably, Wentz does thank his former coach Doug Pederson, even though the two apparently fell out quite spectacularly in 2020.
It’s yet to be seen how Eagles fans remember Wentz. He was awesome for the team in the first part of his career, but things completely came off the rails in 2020. Ultimately, he was the team’s quarterback for a good part of a Super Bowl season, and that has to mean something once the bad feelings from the trade subside.
Lane Johnson was a big supporter of Carson Wentz during the quarterback’s time with the Philadelphia Eagles, so it is probably safe to assume he was disappointed when Wentz was traded to the Indianapolis Colts this week. The veteran offensive tackle is not panicking, however.
Not long after the trade was completed, Johnson told Jeff Skversky of 6ABC that he is happy for Wentz and knows Wentz and Colts head coach Frank Reich are “really close” and have “good chemistry.” Then on Friday, Johnson sent a cryptic tweet that appeared to be directed at Eagles fans.
Wentz wanted out of Philly, so there was no way the Eagles were going to keep him. Many Eagles fans felt the team didn’t get enough in return for Wentz, but his stock wasn’t exactly through the roof after an abysmal 2020 season. Teams also knew he wanted to play for the Colts, which limited the market.
The Eagles are now starting fresh with a new head coach, and it sounds like they could hold an open quarterback competition this offseason. Johnson, one of the team’s veteran leaders, apparently feels the team can get things straightened out quickly under the new regime.
The problems Carson Wentz had with the Philadelphia Eagles obviously extended beyond his strained relationship with former head coach Doug Pederson. Otherwise, the quarterback would not have wanted to be traded after Pederson was fired. However, it now clearer than ever that the two did not get along toward the end of their tenure together.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter discussed the Wentz situation during a Friday morning appearance on 97.5 The Fanatic. He said Wentz was “done” in Philly and wanted out as badly as Deshaun Watson wants out of Houston. Schefter also described how Wentz and Pederson went extended periods of time without speaking with one another at all.
“There are a lot of things that went wrong,” Schefter said, as transcribed by Bleacher Report’s Tim Daniels. “We have the team drafting Jalen Hurts. We have Carson feeling jilted by that. We have the team trying to reassure him. We have Carson not getting past that. We have Carson struggling. We have Carson and Doug not talking for weeks on end during the season, where the head coach and quarterback are not talking for eight, nine, 10 weeks.”
It’s hard to imagine something more dysfunctional than a head coach and quarterback not speaking for more than two months in the middle of a season. Schefter added that there were “a lot of other people” who contributed to Wentz wanting a trade, but it certainly sounds like his poor relationship with Pederson got the ball rolling.
Wentz and Pederson looked like a match made in heaven a few years ago, but things went south in a hurry. There was a lot of pressure to bench Wentz last season with how poorly he played, and eventually Pederson gave Jalen Hurts the nod. At that point, it sounds like Wentz completely turned on the coach and wanted nothing to do with the franchise anymore.
If you want to know how quickly things turned in Philly, just read this surreal quote Pederson gave about Wentz back in 2017.
Wentz was traded to the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday for draft picks. The deal will set a new NFL record for dead salary cap money.
There is one interesting nugget to emerge from the Carson Wentz trade.
Wentz was dealt on Thursday from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Indianapolis Colts. Wentz wanted out of Philly after being benched last season, and the Eagles were ready to move on from him despite needing to eat a big cost.
Wentz is owed $25.4 million (all guaranteed) for the 2021 season and $22 million in 2022. Philly will be hit with a $33.8 million dead cap charge for trading Wentz to Indy. That is an NFL record for largest dead cap charge, as Dan Graziano shared.
Even though the Eagles have a big cap hit despite Wentz not playing for them, the difference is less than $1 million for how much he would have counted against the cap if he were on the team. In other words, Philly was in a bad spot financially concerning Wentz no matter what they did.
It’s hard to believe this is where things ended up for the Eagles and Wentz. Former Eagles coach Doug Pederson was raving about Wentz not too long ago. Wentz was playing at an MVP level in 2017 before tearing his ACL. The Colts are banking on being able to unlock that version of Wentz once again.
Thursday’s Carson Wentz trade between the Philadelphia Eagles and Indianapolis Colts could impact the quarterback market, and may not be great news for at least one team.
ESPN’s Rich Cimini believes Thursday’s trade is a bad sign for the New York Jets if they are serious about trading quarterback Sam Darnold. Cimini believes the Jets would be unlikely to fetch more than the Eagles got for Wentz, which amounted to a third-round pick and a conditional second-round pick that could become a first.
Cimini does note that the Colts took on a bigger contract than Darnold has, which may have reduced the compensation. However, it’s now seen as possible that the ceiling on a Darnold return may involve a second-round pick in 2021 and a third-rounder in 2022, if that.
Darnold has attracted plenty of interest, but this is lower than the price tag one NFL executive put on the Jets’ quarterback. At 23, Darnold is younger than Wentz, but also hasn’t had as much NFL success. That helps explain why the Jets may not be happy with Thursday’s developments.
It’s easy to forget that Carson Wentz looked like an MVP-caliber quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles just a few short years ago. That was reflected in what the organization thought of him at the time in some thoughts that didn’t age well.
After Wentz was traded to the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday, old audio resurfaced of former Eagles coach Doug Pederson discussing Wentz with 49ers general manager John Lynch. Pederson talked about how “incredible” Wentz was, praising his work ethic and preparation. The coach then concluded with a remark that will make Eagles fans cringe in retrospect: “As long as we don’t screw him up, right?”
The Eagles beat Lynch’s 49ers 33-10 on Oct. 29, 2017. That win moved them to 7-1 in a season that ultimately saw them win the Super Bowl. Six weeks later, Wentz tore his ACL, ending his season. Still, he was effective in 2018 and 2019 before his enormous step back in 2020 led to the team’s decision to trade him.
There will be debate over who, exactly, screwed Wentz up, whether it was himself, the coaches, the organization, or bad luck. Whatever the case, little more than three years after delivering that remark, Pederson is out of a job, and Wentz is headed to Indianapolis.
Indianapolis Colts players were likely disappointed when Philip Rivers announced his retirement last month, but they seem plenty excited about the team’s new starting quarterback.
The Philadelphia Eagles traded Carson Wentz to the Colts on Thursday in exchange for draft picks. While there are mixed opinions about whether Wentz can revive his career in Indy, linebacker Darius Leonard and other Colts veterans are clearly optimistic about what the future holds.
The Colts’ official Twitter account also shared a photo of head coach Frank Reich with a big smile on his face not long after the trade was completed.
Wentz has a tremendous opportunity to revive his career in Indianapolis. Reich was the offensive coordinator with the Eagles in 2017, which is when Wentz was having his best NFL season prior to tearing his ACL. The 28-year-old should be plenty familiar with the offensive scheme.
The Colts stood their ground in trade talks with the Eagles and did not end up giving up much. If Wentz proves he can be a viable starter on what is already a playoff-caliber team, the trade will have been well worth it.
Carson Wentz is officially on his way to becoming the starting quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts.
The Philadelphia Eagles traded Wentz to the Colts on Thursday in exchange for a third-round pick this year and a conditional 2022 second-round pick that could turn into a first. ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Chris Mortensen were the first to report the news.
The 2022 pick would become a first-round pick if Wentz plays at least 75 percent of the Colts’ offensive snaps next season, according to Schefter. It would also become a first if Wentz plays at least 70 percent and Indy reaches the postseason.
The Colts have looked like the most likely suitor for Wentz for quite some time. Their head coach, Frank Reich, was the offensive coordinator in Philadelphia when Wentz had an MVP-caliber season back in 2017. Wentz was reportedly determined to reunite with Reich, though some other teams expressed interest in the former second overall pick.
Wentz also drew interest from the Chicago Bears, but it sounds like he did not want to play there. The Bears were not going to trade for Wentz knowing he didn’t want to play for them, which left the Colts as the only real suitor. Indy knew that and refused to up its offer, and that patience obviously paid off.
While he had a horrible season in 2020 and was benched for his poor play, Wentz has a great opportunity to revive his career with the Colts. He’s still just 28 and is plenty familiar with Reich’s system.