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Charlie Manuel Calls Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain Good But not Great

The Philadelphia Phillies just lost a three-game series to the San Francisco Giants. They were beaten by Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain who held them to one run apiece. The series loss comes after the Giants knocked out the Phillies in the NLCS last year with Cain and Lincecum going 2-1 against them. Needless to say, Phillies manager Charlie Manuel fielded his share of questions from the media that wondered if Lincecum and Cain had taken proverbial ownership of them.

Manuel wasn’t willing to concede an inch.

“They’re good pitchers. You say they’re great pitchers. To me, I don’t know how great they are. I think as they move on into their careers, there’s the longevity part and things like that. I think that’s when the greatness might come by. This is a consistent game. When you say somebody is great … tonight I saw 90 fastball, 92 at the best. I saw a good changeup. I saw a breaking ball. I saw a cutter. Good pitching, but at the same time we can beat that. I’ve seen us do that.”

“We can beat them. I know we can.”

Sounds more like a pep talk than statement of fact, no? It really comes across as if the Giants are in the Phillies’ heads after beating them this series. The teams meet again next week for a four-game set and you know the Phillies will want to make a statement. If their bats don’t come alive, prepare to hear more chants about the Giants being poised to repeat as NL champions. Besides, we all know what Manuel thinks deep down. He just is afraid to admit it.


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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6R2F7WJ5AFBKXD3REMQXGHHDLU fes

    i couldn’t agree more.  they are both just good, not great. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XP3ZZEDQPXPJRGGBNWFTJ7QBE Roger

    Lol … Charlie talks like he’s trying to convince himself doesn’t he?! I also think that its funny that after the way Cain and Lincecum dominated the Phillies this week Phillie fans have come up with all kinds of excuses about how the Phillies who according to their fans and the huge bias of east coast media now try and say the Giants pitching is good while the Phillies is great. Look at the team stats today and you will see a Giant team pitching leading the NL in many categories including ERA, OBA, OSLG%, K’s/9 and given up the least TB in the league. The Giants bullpen has been stellar and it seperates the Giants from the crowd. Yeah they need a catcher that can hit … but the Giants know how to win … something Phillie fans and Charlie and the rest of the east coast neglect to mention. The Giants have character and play as a team and that is why Charlie is more worried than he lets on!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XML26YAIZQVTDHOZLR4WN5JEMM SF_GIANTS_FAN

    LOL just good huh? So I take it that the 2 time Cy young winner was just good enough to win it back to back and I take it that Timmy and Caine just DOMINATED good enough to win the Giants a World Series Title. Yea just good enough.  The way I see it is the phillies are bitter that the Giants are just good enough to kick their asses and know we have them by the balls! LOL