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Is it Wrong for Mexican-Americans to Boo the American Soccer Team on U.S. Soil?

I will freely admit it, I’m not the most patriotic person in the country. I appreciate many of the freedoms of the United States, but I’m a skeptical being by nature and not someone who gets too fanatic about anything. That’s right, you won’t see me tattooing a picture of my favorite player on my forearm or butt anytime too soon. But there is something that doesn’t sit well with me, and it’s the notion that many Mexican-American citizens (or illegal aliens) were booing the U.S. soccer team at the Rose Bowl Saturday.

Goalie Tim Howard expressed his outrage that the post-match ceremony in the CONCACAF Gold Cup finals between Mexico and the U.S. was conducted mostly in Spanish, but this is much worse. It’s one thing to root your home country and stick to your roots by cheering for the Mexican team. I understand that and don’t have a problem with that. It’s also pretty evident that the U.S. is a better all-around country than Mexico otherwise so many of their citizens wouldn’t have to come here to live. If they need a victory in a soccer game to give them some sort of pride, that’s fine — they don’t have a whole lot about which they can brag.

But where it’s crossing the line is when you boo the opposing team. Even if it is only sports, it sends a much larger message about the feelings of the people that booed the U.S. team: We may live here, but we’re not happy here and this is how we’re sending our message. Cheer on your country’s team, but don’t boo the team of the country in which you live. If you dislike America or its teams that much, don’t live here. And if you want changes, booing a non-partisan soccer team will do little to improve your plight.



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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=705121439 Serge Grandchamps

    I feel for you fellos Americans. Here in Canada, we have similar problems. Not with hockey, because we’re the best at it, but with any soccer matches involving Canada and a third world coutry. However, migrants to Canada will not boo the Canadian Soccer Team unless Canada plays their country of origin.  It alyays pisses me off to see this. We offer them a second and a third chance at a descent life, and they spit in our faces… Shame on you, who ever you are!

  • http://profiles.google.com/harrypottersdaddy Harry Potter

    it’s part of the game. live with it.

  • http://twitter.com/SittonRead Charles Sitton

    I understand that there are originally from Mexico and they should be proud of their home country’s team, but as Americans now they should also be proud of the US team as well. There’s nothing wrong with cheering for the Mexico team but they shouldn’t boo the American team out of the building.

  • Anonymous

    I’m originally from Peru in South America, but I’d been in the USA since 1989. I bleed for the US Soccer team. It doesnt matter if they play Peru. The home team always wins and this is my home. I know for certain that I’m not the only one that feels the same.

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree with you Larry. I’m Colombian American and when the US team plays Colombia I cheer for both of them, I find it disrespectful that Mexican Americans would boo the country they live in and that has given them a better life.

  • Anonymous

    I totally agree with you Larry. I’m of Colombian descent and when the US team plays Colombia I root for both of them, I find it disrespectful of Mexican American fans boo the country they live in.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DJ6HVPDNJ5OIFY7BTFUQK6RECQ David

    what about the fans who cheered on Poland, Czech. and Spain? Why are they living here? What about those who walked around wearing England jerseys during the world cup? They should leave as well. It shows how much you do know about sports and society itself. 

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    Why don’t you actually read the story carefully. My issues isn’t that they cheered on Mexico, it’s that they booed the U.S. team. Did Polish, Czech, and Spanish fans boo the U.S. team? Read carefully before commenting next time.

  • Anonymous

    Larry, I would suggest you read the book: How soccer explains the world.  It might open up your eyes to the sport.  There are several reason as to why Mexican-Americans and Mexicans (from Mexico), booed the US soccer team and the anthem.  It’s not that Mex.-Americans are less American than a second generation Italian or Eastern European, but more of a reflection of how society has marginalize Latinos (Mexicans in particular).  Second, the US soccer is still very young and most Mexican-Americans have grown up and were brought up as Mex/El Tri fans.  Try asking  New Yorker Yankees fans who has moved out to LA to support the Dodgers, it’s not going to happen overnight.  There is a growing number of Mexican-Americans, like myself, who do support the US (Yes, I wore my red jersey on Saturday to the Rose Bowl). Give it a couple of more years and keep the ignorant and racist people from supporting US Soccer and you’ll see the stadiums in the Southwest go from green to red.  One las thing, the ceremony was sponsored by Univision hence the reason for it being “MOSTLY” in Spanish.  Money talks!

  • Anonymous

    I hate how people closely relate mexicans with the rest of latinos. We might speak the same language but the similarities end right there. There is a difference of cultures between Mexico and most south american countries. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DJ6HVPDNJ5OIFY7BTFUQK6RECQ David

    Yes they did. They booed every US goal, they booed when the US team had the ball, and celebrated when when the other team scored on the US. they showed up in “their” colors and “their” jerseys. Not to mention the US – Argentina game. They booed as well. Yet, no one calls them out on it. No one questions their loyalty. Watch those games carefully before commenting next time..

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    My post had nothing to do with those countries or their fans. If they did the same thing, then all my comments would apply to them. I’m not sure what they have to do with anything.

  • Anonymous

    Regardless of how soccer “explains the world”, or people of Mexican origin attending this game dislike their naturalized neighbors, their display of extreme hostility to their host country only shows their ignorance. It also rapidly diminishes the overall status of the Latino in US society.

  • Anonymous

    You could not be more wrong.  Not sure where you are from but America and Americans don’t all look the same.  Mexican-Americans are not naturalized or migrants, Mexican-Americans are Americans who have still have not given up or have been stripped of their heritage and humanity by a government appointed category such as a COLOR.  I would argue that their hostility doesn’t reflect their ignorance but instead reflects a dscontent segment of US population and society of how and what they are being portrayed as in general in their own country.  Have we forgotten the youth counter revolution and the civil rights movement.  And then there’s the arguement I make about a NY fan.    

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BLPOVSMXWEFSMRYEIMKYPTFW64 Horacio

    One point that is being left out of the discussion is the history of Mexico and United States. Do you know the history of California? and no! it does not mean we are not Americans, it means we feel Mexico is like the un-recognized state of the united states of America. Besides no one even cares about soccer in this country but suddendly a gringo cries out not fair and plays on the consertive media agenda and fear mongoring, you know what, Vamos Mexico! Un-sung state of America, and if you don’t like it…. then PUTO! and for all those claiming that Mexicans don’t represent them and that they are from other south american countries thats right, shut up because you really are immigrants, Mexicans are only immigrants because they cofified the treaty of guadalupe and if you dont like it, then get out! (of the southwest at least)

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    Well, thanks for not bringing a slur into the discussion *gringo*

  • Anonymous

    I see in your response no remorse, no regret, that a mob chose to disgrace themselves in front of the country that has provided a home and a future for them in spite of their hostility.
    I believe you would make the same excuses for them if they had rioted and gone out looting Pasadena.
    There is no valid excuse for this behavior.

  • http://twitter.com/Spokker Spokker

    The US team is awful. I would boo them too.

    If the US team consistently beat Mexico then the Mexico fans would root for the American team. There is no doubt about it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BLPOVSMXWEFSMRYEIMKYPTFW64 Horacio

    I apoligize for using *gringo* in California is not even a negative term anymore and anyways… I love all people but when push comes to shove, the American me prevails and my apoligies if I offended you… that being said I am proud to also be Mexican… The United States National Team is great, I was happy even when Mexico lost in previous matches and I was sad when they would always loose when I was growing up… point being soccer matters to hispanics and has nothing to do with nationality and el tri is simply part of american culture just like baseball….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BLPOVSMXWEFSMRYEIMKYPTFW64 Horacio

    I apoligize for using *gringo* in California is not even a negative term anymore and anyways… I love all people but when push comes to shove, the American me prevails and my apoligies if I offended you… that being said I am proud to also be Mexican… The United States National Team is great, I was happy even when Mexico lost in previous matches and I was sad when they would always loose when I was growing up… point being soccer matters to hispanics and has nothing to do with nationality and el tri is simply part of american culture just like baseball….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BLPOVSMXWEFSMRYEIMKYPTFW64 Horacio

    ** I mean to say el tri is part of all mexican culture, like baseball to all americans and yes that includes american hispanics…

  • Anonymous

    You want to talk about disrespect?….Maybe you, American “soccer” fans don’t remember, but at Landon Donovan uirinated in a Mexican Soccer Stadium in Guadalajara!!!!!…….In addition, many Americans who where at the Rose Bowl last Saturday, where hugging and laughing with Mexican, Mexican Americans and “Illegal Aliens” during and after the game…..so all this, BS about people booing the US Soccer Team is just plain idiotic!!! Get a life and deal with the fact, that yes Mexico is the Gigante of the Region, Mr. Brown! 

  • Anonymous

    Article: 
    Mexico fans cheer on US in Gold CupUS Soccer Player, Clint Dempsey, after the US beat Panama in the Semifinals of the Gold Cup in Houston, Texas, 

    When his shot found the net, after all the celebrating with his teammates, Clint Dempsey looked into the crowd Wednesday at Reliant Stadium in Houston and he noticed two things:(1) There was an awful lot of Mexican green in the crowd.(2) Most of those green jerseys were cheering for the United States.

    Nonetheless, this is something of a new phenomenon. Dempsey generated a hypothesis.

    “I’d like to think it’s two things,” he said. “I like to think it’s a sign of respect that the game is developing more and more in the states and that we’re playing a better style of football. Two, I’d like to think a lot of people in the stands tonight that were wearing green jerseys are making a living here, and being able to have an appreciation a little bit more of this country.”
    Maybe Mexican, Mexican American or “Illegal Aliens” are some what respectul?!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nigel-Brooks/1594451449 Nigel Brooks

    I was born in the UK and lived there
    till I was 18. Within 6 months of my arrival here I was drafted, six
    months later I was in Vietnam.

    When it comes to competition between the country of my birth, and the
    country I have chosen to be a part
    of – I chose the one that has given
    me everything I have. I might be British by birth – but I’m American by
    choice.

    I can understand how recent arrivals might not have that connection with
    the US, but it is incomprehensible to me how individuals who were born
    here can support another country against the country of their birth.
    They just haven’t had the opportunity to see how truly great this
    country is compared to the experience of us who come here from
    elsewhere.

    For those immigrants who showed such disrespect, it makes no sense – how can you be disrespectful of the country which has provided you with shelter?

    It isn’t about soccer, it’s about pride of country.  Lots of people support League teams in the EPL, FMF or other leagues – that’s fine.   This is about supporting your country.

    If in fact disrespect was shown for the US National Anthem at that event
    – it is just plain wrong. It is classless. I hope that I never have
    to witness jeering and booing directed at our National Anthem in this
    country.

    Even if the 80 percent of the folks at the LA game were booing the
    players and not the anthem – those players represent my country. Did US
    supporters boo during the playing of the Mexican Anthem? I honestly
    don’t get it – it’s disrespectful of the host country.

    This country was and is a melting pot – but what makes it so great is
    that in the past everyone who came here became American. If the future holds that
    recent immigrants favor allegiance to the nation that they left rather
    than the country that gives them shelter – then the USofA is doomed.
    It’ll become just like the Europe.

    Regardless of the reasons apologist give for the disgusting display of disrespect, there is no defense, not because of the treaty of Guadalupe, not because of anything.

    The actions of those football fans who booed and disrespected the US reflect poorly on themselves, and, if they thought they were representing El Tri – shamed their team.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CNEPZWSJG7NFCNGIS6IUZD2JNY Morgan

    Open borders, Latinos and Sharia(Islam) are HERE to take over, thanks to the democratic party and political correctness.
    If you don’t like it, start looking for another country to immigrate to.
    America is finished ! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Ma-Ma/1250901103 Joe Ma Ma

    Horacio I’m tired or wet back pendejos like you! I can say wetback because I am an AMERICAN before a mexican because this is the country that provided so much for me. who cares about the treaty of guadalupe. YOU sir are a RETARD! If you feel it is part of mexico then move back to your Mexico lindo y queridio. You idiots forget that Hard working mexicans like myself pay yopur governmental support yet you still complain about stupid trivial things. Respect the country that provides for you. Don’t bite the Hand that feeds! Larry I agree with you 100%! This idiot is part of the trash that fails to respect and recognize that this country is great, and they should respect a team and it’s national anthem whether they like it or not!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Ma-Ma/1250901103 Joe Ma Ma

    can we get the BP to pinpoint this idiots location so we can deporte him….next thing you know he will be typing..”LA MIGRA, LA MIGRA”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DJ6HVPDNJ5OIFY7BTFUQK6RECQ David

    Did you in fact write an article about them and mentioned that maybe they should leave the country as the well?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DJ6HVPDNJ5OIFY7BTFUQK6RECQ David

    lol. yea and all those eastern and western european, african, asian, and pacific islander immigrants should start looking as well.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you Afuego22 and Magnus117. I too am from Peru and have grown up here since I was 3 years old, but its totally disrespectful behavior for the fans to behave that way, shows lack of education.  Respect is a two way street, you must give it in order to receive it.

  • Anonymous

    1) Supporting Mexico’s soccer team is actually more akin to supporting any professional sports team than a kind of nationalist or patriotic endeavor. Most individuals I know do not support the Mexican government.

    2) The missing story in Mr. Brown’s message is the fact that Americanization is halted for most Mexican immigrants and other third world immigrants precisely because they do not fit into what is considered ‘American’ about being here, namely having roots from Western Europe. That is to say we ought to consider how we often classify Mexican-Americans as never being able to be American, and what that might contribute to the problem you raise. Booing of American soccer doesn’t happen in a vacuum where people should or should not be grateful for being here. As a upwardly mobile Mexican-American that probably relates more to mainstream than specifically Mexican-American culture, it is disarming and disillusioning when I am insulted or clearly biased against. The collectivity of these experiences makes what you write about possible, and also makes your statement “they should not live here” more damaging.

    I just think the situation is far more nuanced and complicated than presented. There is no ‘right’ in booing the US team, but it is also not an act that doesn’t have with it the weight of over 150 years of coexistence between Americans and descendents of Mexicans in this country and especially in the southwest. Ignoring the largesse of the situation, in favor of a provincial take on the duty of people at a soccer game, is myopic.

    Indeed I would prefer it if Mexican-Americans didn’t boo the US (though I can say rather unapologetically I can’t stand Landon Donovan), but I would equally (if not more) prefer it if Americans didn’t treat Mexicans as lower-class citizens who should be grateful for American hospitality. Or that Americans were aware that the US puts a cap on how many Mexicans can immigrate a year, or the fact that travel visa to the US (let’s say if my dad’s sister wanted to visit me) is prohibitively expensive and individuals have to pay the fees before knowing they can get the visa. Coming to the US is hard. And posts like this make the mountain that much taller to climb before Mexicans will ever fully feel comfortable in this country.

    I guess then the point I want to make: consider the fact that the problem is much bigger than a soccer game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Tangaxoan3 Jon Athan

    Its soccer homie… Trust me most people that cheered Mexico on were Mexican nationals. Also the great freedoms that we gain as american allow us to cheer on whatever team we want! I understand your sentiment because it pisses me off when people born and raised in Chicago root on the cardinals or the packers. But thats the reality. Another reality is that the USNT is not that great and neither is Mexico but at this moment it is. And like all the great sports teams people jump on band wagons although I almost guarantee that Mexican fans are some of the most loyal fans on any level or sport. Mexico can very well play in the moon and they will have fans. Americans appreciate that a rivalry like this exist you are now part of the great soccer world. I am an american citizen and I support the USNT that is until they face the country if my parents Mexico. I guarantee that my kids will too. My brother plays in the US developmental Academy (Chicago Magic) So he can very well play for the USNT one day, but till that day comes… QUE VIVA MEXICO!

  • Anonymous

    That’s because you are weak minded brother. It’s ok brother.

  • Anonymous

    There was a select few that boo’d the American National Anthem, but the vast majority cheered so if you were not at the game please don’t comment. Mexican Americans have a strong connection to the Mexican National team. It does not mean we don’t love America. It’ just that our parents passed that pride to us. Unlike south americans and central americans.

  • Anonymous

    Your right, Mexicans love their culture and have more pride than the REST of you LATINOS. We were raised by our parents cheering for the Mexican National team, hence our love for the team. Don’t be fooled by that cause when the US plays any of those Central or South American countries you can bet that we will be there to cheer the US on. 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, without us(US of A) you would be a third world country too.

  • Heather

    condescending much?

  • Heather

    wear the jersey, root for both sides, but don’t boo the country that took you in after WWII (my family) or when you crossed the desert by Agua Prieta. OBVIOUSLY. I root for Germany all the time, but I also want our team to know we are behind them. They immigrants, too, btw, in one form or another. It’s a matter of respect, brah. Or didn’t you know?

  • Heather

    David STFU.