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Cincinnati Bengals Stubbornly Will Not Trade Carson Palmer but They Should

Even with the NFL season on hold, Cinncinati Bengals owner Mike Brown is staying consistent with his word on quarterback Carson Palmer.

“We don’t plan to trade Carson,” Brown told the NFL Network at the league’s spring owners meetings in Indianapolis. “He’s important to us. He’s a very fine player, and we do want him to come back. If he chooses not to, he’d retire. And we would go with Andy Dalton, the younger player we drafted, who’s a good prospect.

“Ideally, we’d have both of them. That’d be the best way to go forward. If we don’t have Carson, we’ll go with Andy.”

Mr. Brown continues to reiterate that, for Palmer, it’s either Cincinnati or nowhere. Palmer told the Bengals he was done with the organization and when former TCU quarterback Andy Dalton was drafted, it seemed they’d finally grant him his wish. Instead, once the NFL season resumes, Palmer will be staring at retirement.

With a young core of talented receivers in Jordan Shipley, Jermaine Gresham and A.J. Green, and the likely departure of Ochocinco and T.O., the Bengals should quit playing stubborn games with their former franchise QB.

By trading Carson, what’s the worst that can happen? Maybe, he’ll beat them later down the road in a measly regular season game. But realistically, at this point in his career, he’s washed up and not a Super Bowl-caliber threat. By sending him elsewhere, the Bengals would at least receive some compensation.

Let the guy go, get a draft pick in return and call it a day.



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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    Don’t really see your point here. The Bengals are calling Palmer’s bluff, and for once a franchise is not letting the players run the team. You want to retire? Go ahead. Give in once and you set a precedent for future player relations.

    If he sticks to his word and “retires,” they’ll still be able to get a late round pick in the offseason. They have no bargaining power as it is because of his statements, he won’t lose any real value if they test the waters to see if he’ll actually sit out.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    How are they calling his bluff? The franchise is awful, it is cheap, spends little on scouting, and they low ball all their draft picks. They can get much more compensation for Palmer if they trade him. Why wouldn’t they? They have Andy Dalton now. Be reasonable here. Why cut off your nose to spite your face? Oh yeah, because Mike Brown cares more about pride and personal insults than he does about winning. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    They are calling his bluff. He said if they don’t trade him he won’t play. The Bengals haven’t traded him.
     
    HE is the one that signed the contract for this many years. If he had doubts about the direction of the franchise (which wouldn’t be unreasonable) he shouldn’t have signed for so many years.
     
    Randy Moss brought back in two trades a total of a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick. Santonio Holmes brought back a 5th rounder.

    Palmer is a 31-year old quarterback that has had major injuries to his knee and throwing elbow. Heck, the article here even said he isn’t a Super Bowl QB.

    My point wasn’t even that NO compensation would be gotten for him. It was that:

    A. The compensation will not be significantly affected in terms of value if they wait until the offseason. It will be a late round pick.

    B. Whether they get the pick now or during the offseason, they can’t use it until next year’s draft unless it’s a throw-in in another deal.

    Whether they trade him now or later has no impact on the 2011 Bengals. And either way the trade will most likely not bring anything in return of substance.

    And it’s nice to see one example where the inmates are not running the asylum.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    At least you have one part right — it is an asylum there playing in Cincinnati for Mike Brown. 

    Carson Palmer gave everything he had to that organization. Brown is a horrible, cheap, spiteful owner. He’s tried his best to help the team win, Brown holds it back. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    The issue I have with your points is that they are based on Brown’s previous actions, not the merit of this one. And you say that I have one part right, do you disagree with my other points?

    I don’t like when people give uninformed opinions and present them as though they are fact. I think the overall content on this site is great, but this is the second post I’ve seen that has struck me as being off. I understand you are presenting opinions on the topic, but the one given here really has no merit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    And I understand Palmer has given a ton to the franchise. But Brown has also contributed a ton to Palmer’s wallet, enough so that he is comfortable retiring. Again, if Palmer was unsure, he could have signed for less years. The guy writing the paycheck has some say too.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    Did Carson Palmer bring in T.O.? Did he keep Ochocinco when they should have traded him to Washington for a haul of picks? Oh wait, Mike Brown didn’t want to trade him either out of spite, and look what it’s done for the organization.

    Has Carson kept a mediocre coach around because he was too cheap to fire him? Did Carson draft Andre Smith and then keep him from getting to camp on time by offering him way below market value? 

    Palmer showed his faith in the organization by signing a big deal with them. Brown showed what a poor owner he is since then. Palmer is in the right, Brown is in the wrong. Nobody should want to play for Cincinnati or Mike Brown and I don’t blame Palmer at all. Any decent person (or person who is thinking properly) would trade him to get some compensation.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    I am anything but uninformed when it comes to the Bengals. I know them better than any other team. Of all NFL teams, I’m most qualified to speak about them. The area I agree with you is that Palmer is old and won’t get too much in a trade, but he’ll at least get more than what the Bengals will get from him if they let him retire.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    Palmer gets paid hadsomely to do a job – play quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals. He can decide whether or not to fulfill that duty.
     
     

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    Right, he’s decided not to. But the Bengals should trade him to get something out of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    To the tune of $11.5 million. Football is a game. If he doesn’t want to play anymore due to the situation, then fine, don’t play. Carson’s massive contract also weighs heavily on the team’s salary cap, a contract he hasn’t exactly played up to. Who says the Bengals could even deal him? A mediocre QB that wants out with a ridiculous contract and has had major injury issues in the past.

    He made a commitment to them when he signed. Maybe Carson should have some integrity and honor that.

    Also, the uninformed comment was not directed at you.

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    Teams are desperate. If Marc Bulger and Matt Hasselbeck are wanted, someone will take Carson Palmer. He’d get a 4th or 5th in my opinion. How does it help Cincinnati to let him retire? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    Because he wouldn’t bring back just a 5th rounder. No team is going to eat that $11.5 million, which is also set to escalate later in the contract, without dumping a bad contract or two back. If he retires, then the money is off the books and the Bengals have more money to spend, so it would be beneficial if he retired.
     @yahoo-AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A:disqus 
    How does trading $11.5 million in cap space for a 4th or 5th rounder and two worthless players taking up the same amount of cap space help?

  • http://larrybrownsports.com Larry Brown

    What are you talking about “eat that $11. 5 million”? Do you know how much NFL quarterbacks make? The Jags are paying David Garrard $8 million to play quarterback. You don’t think Seattle or Miami would pay Carson 11? If they trade him his contract is off the books too. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    The salary cap will likely be around $120 million, Larry. The Dolphins already have about $105 million committed. How do you fit $11.5 million in there and sign draft picks and address other needs? The Bengals would have to take back a contract that eats up precious cap space to make the deal work. Let him retire and they have the full $11.5 mil to use.

    That’s what I mean by “eat that $11.5 million.”

     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AKR3VC6JIMLNPFUY5KJQTP635A Jack

    At this point, we’ve gotten away from the heart of the discussion anyway which is this: the Bengals have no obligation to do anything with Carson Palmer. The contract they signed stated that they would pay him $11.5 million to play QB for them. there was nothing in there that said if Carson was unhappy he had to be traded. It’s a legal contract and the rights to him as a football player are property of the Bengals, who can do as they please with them. He surrendered his right to choose another team when he signed. Those are facts. Not what we think is right or what they “should” do.